Ian Gordon – Ramelius Resources
ONE OFF THE WOOD: Ramelius Resources (ASX: RMS) CEO Ian Gordon dropped by to explain that although the company’s logo features a horse it is definitely far from being a one trick pony.
Ian, Ramelius Resources is both a gold producer and explorer, however it seems your attention is currently more focused on production at this point in time?
Most definitely, our major focus at the moment is moving our Mt Magnet operation to the point where it starts producing some cash flow for us.
We expect that to start happening in the June quarter this year.
That’s good timing for it to come on stream, just as you’re winding things down at Wattle Dam.
It certainly is. We will be milling the last ore from Wattle Dam over the next four months, which we anticipate will produce some valuable cash flow for us.
There is still around 5,000 ounces of gold to come out of Wattle Dam at an operating cost of around $400 an ounce.
What happens with Wattle Dam once that final ore has been processed?
Wattle Dam has already been completely rehabilitated. That was completed as at 31 December last year and we are waiting for sign off by DMP.
As the mill isn’t actually located at the rehabilitated Wattle Dam mine site, what plans do you have for it now?
It will continue to mill the remnant Wattle Dam ore and then we have another project, called Coogee, which we are currently moving through the approvals process.
We hope to commence mining at Coogee by the middle of June this year with the anticipated delivery of ore to the Wattle Dam mill by around September – October.
You obviously don’t want to have that asset sitting around idle for too long?
We are hoping to carry out a few months of third party milling there around the July – August period, and we are already in discussions towards that goal.
It won’t be for any significant period of time, just to enable us to cover costs of holding the mill during the period between Wattle Dam ending and Coogee coming on stream.
Besides Coogee coming on line, are you looking at any other prospects in the area?
Absolutely; we’re talking with a number of parties at the moment with projects that appear attractive to us, which we hope to get involved in.
Hopefully by the second half of this year we will have completed at least one of those deals and we hope we will be able to keep the mill operating on that basis.
What we are trying to do is provide capital to get some small projects going, which will enable us to participate in the profits.
So is that the Ramelius business model, to keep an eye out for smaller, viable projects, then getting involved in and maintaining them as a possible future supply chain for the Wattle Dam mill?
That’s what we are trying to achieve, yes. At the moment, with Coogee, we have enough mill feed to take us out to around August 2014, so that allows us a good bit of time to stitch up a couple of those deals.
We’re pretty confident of being able to achieve that. As long as these deals make sense and we continue to make money we’ll continue to do it.
With all that happening you have Mt Magnet just waiting in the wings ready to come on and take centre stage?
We commenced production at Mt Magnet last year, but it has taken us a bit longer than what we anticipated to ramp the operation up to where we want it to be.
During the last quarter we did processed some 15,000 ounces through the mill and we hope to take that figure up to around 17,000 ounces this quarter, then up to 19,000 in the June quarter.
We have also just started development of a separate satellite pit near Mt Magnet, called Western Queen.
That project will provide additional high-grade mill feed to Mt Magnet from August this year and we expect to have the Mt Magnet production up to around the 100,000 ounces per annum mark in the Financial Year 2014.
You have had more good news from Mt Magnet in regards to more recent discoveries.
Most of our exploration money, at present, is being spent at Mt Magnet and we have discovered a small high-grade deposit there called Water Tank Hill.
We are just finalising the drilling on that at the moment and we anticipate releasing a Resource there during the next quarter.
We are hopeful of Water Tank Hill becoming an underground feed source for Mt Magnet from 2014.
It’s the type of deposit we consider could be around 100,000 ounces, but it is just a nice add on to the project, with potential to produce around 30,000 a year at around eight grams per tonne gold.
Most companies would be pleased to have that much going on, but you also have a lot more background activity.
We recently agreed to acquire the Vivien project from Gold Fields, which is another small high-grade deposit, similar to Wattle Dam.
We hope to have that acquisition completed by the end of this quarter as it has taken a bit longer than we anticipated.
It is costing us $10 million and we consider that to be a good buy as it comes with an existing Indicated Resource of 579,000 tonnes at 8.3 grams per tonne gold for 154,000 ounces of gold.
Our focus for that project, once we have completed settlement of the acquisition, is to get in and do some more drilling in order to extend that resource before we start mining.
At this stage we consider there could be up to 120,000 ounces there that is mineable and we anticipate increasing that before mining commences.
Gold mining is an industry that doesn’t allow companies to rest on their laurels, there’s always more gold to be found.
One of the main issues the gold industry faces is the continual search to replace production.
That search means you are going to be outlaying capital every three to four years and, unfortunately, during any period you’re outlaying capital you’re not making as much return as you, or your shareholders, would like.
That’s a fact of gold mining life and you have to deal with it. The secret is to ensure you are holding enough capital to see you through those periods.
Would it be fair to say your timing – as a producing company, which is able to fund new exploration – in these tight economic times enables you to look at new projects, whereas other companies are struggling to maintain just one?
Definitely; one of the things we have worked hard at is always maintaining a strong capital position.
It’s no secret that projects can end up costing more than when companies approve them. You just have to take that into account in regard to your capital position.
That’s where most small mining companies can go wrong, by not having enough capital to cover when things may not go according to plan.
We are in a pretty healthy capital position right now and expect to see strong cash flows coming in from Mt Magnet come July.
From that point on we will introduce the production from Coogee, so our cash flow position for the year ahead looks pretty good.




